What is “handling”?

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09/22/2020 at 06:05 • Filed to: None

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It seems to be entirely subjective- the only objective measure of the term seems to be: “how fast can I throw this into a corner and not die?”


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Kinja'd!!! Jb boin > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/22/2020 at 06:23

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Not necessarily, for example on a non-sportscar it’s more about the progressive ness of the chassis reactions and the fact that they are communicated to the driver and if possible, simple to manage and understand how the car reacts .

M aking the driver at the center of the driving experience and not being a passive pawn, making him aware of what is happening and when it’s getting close to the limit or being able to play with the chassis to make it respond in a different way .

And going fast in a long corner in a perfectly flat road does not mean it will be fast on a slow corner on a bumpy one or on a fast direction or speed change for example , having good and reliable reactions in many different cases is important.


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09/22/2020 at 07:04

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the art of not getting seasick while driving on land?


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09/22/2020 at 07:28

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A gentle cupping of the sweetmeats in one hand whilst the other is being eaten by a rabid chihuahua.


Kinja'd!!! Nauraushaun > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/22/2020 at 08:02

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Is not about speed. Is about feel. A mid engined car, perhaps you won't throw it in fast. But you'll enjoy it


Kinja'd!!! haveacarortwoorthree2 > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/22/2020 at 08:07

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Fondling without permission? 


Kinja'd!!! McMike > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/22/2020 at 08:47

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Grabbing Attention, Gripping the Curves

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Kinja'd!!! Tripper > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/22/2020 at 09:08

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It kind of is subjective, at least to anyone not going flat on on a track and even there, an argument can be made.

“Handling” to me, is a relationship between car and driver. Driver controls inputs, car reacts accordingly. The way in which the car reacts is how it “handles”. D epending on the purpose of the car/chassis tuning and the intent of the driver, the driver may say it handles “really fucking well, mate” or “like total shit, bro”.

It’s all about finesse for me. If I’m driving a Lincoln Town Car, it better drive like an absolute couch and I should be able to turn that big ol steering wheel with almost no effort. If I’m driving a 911 I want to drive fast, not hard...maintaining speed instead of scrubbing and adding before turns.


Kinja'd!!! atfsgeoff > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/22/2020 at 09:09

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Handling is short for road handling. It can be anything from sedate and jello-like (70s era land barges) to scalpel-like precision (newer porsche 911, ferrari 488, etc.). It has more to do with the dynamics of how the vehicle responds to changing road conditions, than outright speed carried through directional changes.


Kinja'd!!! Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > McMike
09/22/2020 at 09:15

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Wrong Apex. We're talking about when the car is NOT grounded to the ground. 


Kinja'd!!! Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/22/2020 at 09:16

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Only three payments of $9.99 + shipping and handling.

So yeah, delivery drivers can handle.


Kinja'd!!! Future next gen S2000 owner > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
09/22/2020 at 10:02

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Kinja'd!!! Future next gen S2000 owner > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
09/22/2020 at 10:04

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It’s not just speed though, it is the confidence the car gives the driver that it will accurately respond to inputs. That’s handling to me.

A very fast car will go through a corner faster than an S2000 but the S2000 will obey commands and give the driver more information than a very fast bus.


Kinja'd!!! Future next gen S2000 owner > McMike
09/22/2020 at 10:05

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It’s the subtle shops that are the best shops.


Kinja'd!!! Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Future next gen S2000 owner
09/22/2020 at 10:06

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Shoulda bought a Toyota. I heard they don’t have that issue.


Kinja'd!!! McMike > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
09/22/2020 at 10:38

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Kinja'd!!! Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > McMike
09/22/2020 at 10:42

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You won’t be seeing a Corolla falling over halfway around a corner.


Kinja'd!!! Urambo Tauro > atfsgeoff
09/22/2020 at 19:06

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Agreed. There’s more than one way to “handle” a road. It can be very subjective, but it depends a lot on one’s goals and expectations.